I am of the Betzoldt clan, just sometimes keep that on the down low… LOL. I will give Cassidy a ring and see what he has to say. Being in the corporate aviation industry, the insurance game is such a joke (cartel) when it comes to what they are charging. Appreciate the info and I will let my grandpa know you say hello! He just sold his Piper Super Pacer and bought a Cardinal so my grandma can get in and out much easier. Look forward to meeting everyone in the club next year hopefully!